Conversation About NDAA + NDAA Summarized In One Paragraph

"It's so blatantly unconstitutional"

The National Defense Authorization Act is a bill already passed by our congress and senate allowing the government to detain anyone in the world (including Americans) suspected of terrorism in a military (i.e. Guantanamo Bay) or civil prison until the war on terror IS OVER, without a fair trial (hello, bill of rights, where are you?). People have been arguing about the word "requirement" in the bill. It states that this (detainment) does not extend to US citizens because US Armed Forces are not required to hold US citizens in MILITARY prisons. Meaning that they are allowed to hold these "suspected terrorists" in CIVIL prisons (the one you drive by all the time, you know, with all the barbed wire) UNTIL THE END OF THE ENDLESS WAR ON TERROR. Obama signed this bill after convincing us that he would veto it, the same man who was for shutting down Gitmo when he was first elected.

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The conversation:

(Patriot 2 links Patriot 1 to NDAA video stating that if you have enough food in your house to last you more than 7 days, you can be classified "a terrorist")


Patriot #2: actually dont watch that video
it will make u angry
uve proably seen it already
lol

Patriot #1:
Report · 9:07pm
yeah i havve
i stayed up for three dfdays trying to spread the word
think i might vote for ron paul
i would fucking LOVE to see him president
but theres that old trick "a vote for so and so is a vote against obama"

Patriot #2:
Report · 9:10pm
im stilll shocked it went under the radar so much
politicians dont fucking no history
or some of them do too wlel
because these r identical steps taken by the nazi regime
thats how they took total control
and other militant states

Patriot #1:
Report · 9:10pm
dude for like 3 weeks straight no body talked about it but fucking alex jones so everyone thought it was conspiracy or sensationalism

Patriot #2:
Report · 9:11pm
i have no idea why more people werent outraged. i dont understand how the senators all agreed to it... i'm sure tons of them own guns

Patriot #1:
Report · 9:11pm
yeah man this shit is actually happening and i kinda like seeing it go down in a sick way, so many people are fighting it as we speak

Patriot #2:
Report · 9:11pm
they are all suspected terrorists

Patriot #1:
Report · 9:11pm
money man,

Patriot #2:
Report · 9:11pm
power money
manipulation

Patriot #1:
Report · 9:11pm
one of the writers or voters im not sure received 218,000 dollars to vote yes

Patriot #2:
Report · 9:11pm
its not gonna benefit them tho
its only going to benefit those at the very top

Patriot #1:
Report · 9:11pm
one of the senators
of course all his information was leaked all over the web
lol

Patriot #2:
Report · 9:12pm
holy fuck
send me a link
good
i cant believe obama didnt veto it
he explicitly said he would never let anything like this happen

Patriot #1:
Report · 9:12pm
yeah hes a bastard he said he would

Patriot #2:Report · 9:12pm
way earlier
masterminds
or dumbasses
i dont know which

Patriot #1:
Report · 9:12pm
my family didnt even know about it
my entire family
ive watched it happen, its completely fucked

Patriot #2:
Report · 9:13pm
me neither dude. and when i told them about it and sohwed them stuff
they werent worried at all
if i hadnt taken hardcore holocaust studies classes, i wouldnt think anything of this

Patriot #1:
Report · 9:13pm
theres these "disinfo" agents all over the web saying "oh this wont effect you"

Patriot #2:
Report · 9:13pm
id be ike "ohh whatever , im not musim, doesnt apply to me"
but this is exactly what the Nazi party did and used it against their own people

Patriot #1:
Report · 9:13pm
yeah i watched like 300 videos on the illuminati

Patriot #2:
Report · 9:13pm
and im sure other dictatorships/military states
anybody part of the occupy movement
definitely consideered terrorst

Patriot #1:
Report · 9:14pm
type in "the illuminati project" very thorough and beleivable 250+ videos
[The Illuminati Project]

Patriot #1:
Report · 9:14pm
dude an arsonist in cali is now being charged with terrorism
im sure because of this bill
he set cars on fire, with no people around, just to watch the world burn
[Edit: Pyro with mental problems=terrorist]

Patriot #2:
Report · 9:15pm
country is becomnig a scary place
dude anyone in any suburb is a suspected terrorist. we all have more than 7 days food

Patriot #1:
Report · 9:15pm
yeah man i was sitting on my couch just thinking about soldiers running in and detaining me along with everyone in the neighborhood

Patriot #2:
Report · 9:15pm
the whole point is, they can call whoever they want
a terorist

Patriot #1:
Report · 9:16pm
also if you are missing a finger, my sister in laws brother is missing a finger

Patriot #2:
Report · 9:16pm
i just think its ironic that every single senator, THE PRESIDENT , all fit criteria for suspected terrorists
someone needs to make some posters about that
and start spreading them online

Patriot #1:
Report · 9:16pm
yep! they are trulely the worst patriots ive ever sen, they cant even be called patriots in the slightest
ill do it, i know the perfect place to get the word out [edit: fight club?]

Patriot #2:
Report · 9:17pm
public awarness needs to be raised
the ACLU has a petition

Patriot #1:
Report · 9:17pm
yeah man
thats what someone was saying we need to make a case out of this
if i was charlie sheen i would spread the word thru twitter...why dont any celebs do shit

Patriot #2:
Report · 9:18pm
its so blatantly unconstitutional

Patriot #1:
Report · 9:19pm
i mean even dubstep artists dont talk about shit that matters and they are "underground" but have a a big enough following to cause change esspecially with the revolutionary music they make

Patriot #2:
Report · 9:19pm
i thought for sure it would never go through
didnt even worry me

Patriot #1:
Report · 9:20pm
same , but its all part of this "conspiracy" of course its a conspiracy, people are always conspiring to do something whether its political or economical
i dont even think people know the definition of conspiracy or conspire

Patriot #2:
Report · 9:20pm
i am just amazed at how nobody was aware of it, very few people

Patriot #1:
Report · 9:20pm
they just think "wait tin foil hat? funny!kim kardashian?"

Patriot #2:
Report · 9:20pm
that makes me think that whoever was paying 200k to a senator, was paying off the media
and others
and people r dumb

Patriot #1:
Report · 9:21pm
you should post shit around [your university]

Patriot #2:
Report · 9:21pm
im sure people are all about it at [my uni]
the motto of the school is "challenge convention, change the world"

Patriot #1:
Report · 9:21pm
dude i would search for it on google and all these obscure news sites with shitty layouts showed up, and alex jones
not ONE news source wrote aabout it, other wise that article would show up on google

Patriot #2:
Report · 9:21pm
extremely liberal schol

Patriot #1:
Report · 9:22pm
like if NYtimes wrote about it, that would be above alex jones

Patriot #2:
Report · 9:21pm
its nuts
jon stewart did a good piece on it on the daily show
forbes wrote baout it i think

Patriot #1:
Report · 9:22pm
the only thing ive seen in a real news source is "obama says he will pick terorrists carefully, even if they are american" basically
i get bothered by the daily show making things funny, iw wish every once in a while ihe would take his audience aside and be like "but seriously folks, this is really fucked up...no joke"

Patriot #2:
Report · 9:23pm
he made it pretty serious
i thought
or at least the message was hard to not take seriously
but apparently people didnt

Patriot #1:
Report · 9:24pm
good
nah i dont understand
we should have the right to just be like "nah i dont like that as a whole"
as a whole not in quotes
just signed the pledge ACLU
"disinfo" agents are even going as far to say that the bill people are outraged about is the "old bill" and they wrote a "new one"
i bet someone is busy hacking the senators credit cards right now so they can make monthly donations to the ACLU



When is the last time we've had problems with a domestic terrorist? I've heard that Homeland Security dodges 99 terrorist attacks a day. I'm pretty sure most of those are from overseas.